Starter Diagnosis: Should You Replace It, Or Not?

Starter Diagnosis: Should You Replace It, Or Not? (VIDEO)

A large amount of starters are replaced due to misdiagnosis. This video is sponsored by The Group Training Academy.

CC: Are You Unnecessarily Replacing Starters?

There may be no way to know exactly how many, but a large number of starters are replaced each year because of misdiagnosis. Are you unnecessarily replacing good rotating electrical components due to a mistake? Here are some great tips from the experts for diagnosing starters on late-model vehicles.
Check the Inputs


A no-crank condition might be caused by a bad ignition switch, an open park/neutral safety switch or an open clutch pedal safety switch. Believe it or not, it could even be caused by the immobilizer or security system due to a malfunctioning key fob. Use a scan tool to confirm the inputs into the ECM.


Check the Wiring Diagram
On modern vehicles the starter might not be directly wired to the ignition tumbler or start button. The command to crank the engine might go through two or more modules before it energizes the control side of a relay that actuates the solenoid on the starter. This is why looking up the wiring diagram is critical to your diagnostic strategy on late-model vehicles.

DO NOT SWAP RELAYS
It is an old mechanic’s trick to swap relays around in the fuse box to see if it fixes the no crank situation. That was the old days – today, this can damage the ECM or power management module if the relay or starter circuit has a short to ground or power. The module typically contains a transistorized driver on the main circuit board that is connected to the control side of the relay. If you swap relays, you could damage the relay or module. This method can also give inconclusive results. What is the best approach? Use a scan tool that can bi-directionally control the starter relay.

Voltage Drop Still Works, But in a different way…
Most late-model vehicles include anywhere between three to five computer networks. The modules on these networks communicate with each other by switching power on and off in specific patterns. The voltages typically toggle between zero to seven volts.

If the battery is weak or the starter is drawing too much current, the system voltage could drop below seven volts and interrupt the networks in the vehicle. When this happens, the ECM will shut down, injectors will not spray and ignition coils will not fire.

Testing for this can be performed with a scope recording system voltage or a meter set using the min/max function. Also, codes for loss of communication and system voltage will be set in multiple modules.
Solving why rotating electrical components don’t work is as important now as it ever was – but the diagnostic process is a whole new ballgame.

This video is sponsored by The Group Training Academy.

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